Unpublished Seth on Sound and Great Pyramid


604th Session January 12, 1972        9:19 p.m. Wednesday


(Notes on an abortive projection attempt; I lay down for a nap after supper on Friday evening, Jan 14. I used the bedroom in apartment four. We had been working long hours on our own, and I had been putting in overtime at Artistic, so I was quite tired. I dozed for a few moments upon laying down, then came awake to find myself with the unmistakable feeling of floating halfway to the ceiling of the bedroom.)


(The sensation was quite definite, and quiet strange. For I still felt my body against the bed - I lay face up, covered by a blanket - as though my body was pasted to the bed. In other words, I floated in the air, bed and all, quite pleasantly. There was no fear or panic. Instead I hoped to continue the experience into something greater.)


(Shortly after I became aware, Jane began to do the dishes. The geography of our kitchen in apartment four is such that noise can evidently seep through a closet wall in the bedroom and so is quite easily heard. Jane made noise handling the dishes, I heard the water run, etc. In addition she turned on her radio. Even though she kept it on low volume, I heard it. I told myself these things would not distract me. I lay without moving a muscle, trying to encourage further developments without straining. The floating free sensation continued but I wasn’t able to develop it further.)


(I nearly always use suggestions re projection when I lay down. I believe my tiredness tonight helped the state. Now I sent Jane messages that she would leave me undistracted, but nothing developed. The feeling lasted for well over a minute, I would estimate; finally it began to diminish or fade out, and I fell asleep again. Upon writing this, I now recall that immediately upon laying down I drifted into a rather complete, if brief, dreaming state - but I cannot recall the dream. But I went form the dream into the projection.)


(Peculiarly, I had no feeling of being detached from my physical body - that is, I didn’t feel I was bodiless, hovering above it; I had taken the bed up with me, you see. I felt the bed and I were several feet above the floor. I wanted to try turning over astrally, and I wanted to try reaching up toward the ceiling astrally, to see if I could touch it. I didn’t move at all, though, because of the noise form the kitchen. I managed to hold the state while considering the kitchen interference, but was concerned lest any attempt at movement on my part would break the spell entirely.)


(The session this evening, Wednesday, developed rather spontaneously out of several factors that combined almost effortlessly. The recent Sumari developments involving both of us played a part. So did my studying of photos of Baalbek, the first century AD Roman ruins in Lebanon. The enormity of the stones in these buildings left me amazed; I didn’t see how blocks weighing 1200 tons could be moved without machinery, let alone fitted into place over twenty feet up on foundations, etc. The pictures were truly awe-inspiring. I came across them in one of the books on ancient history that Shirley Bickford, one of Jane's students, brought for us to consult on the very ancient civilization, Sumeria, in Mesopotamia, from 4000 to 2000 BC, I believe without consulting dates.)


(Jane and I hadn’t believed there was any connection between Jane’s Sumarian development, and Sumer, since the Sumari, as explained in recent sessions, had never been physical in our terms. Tonight’s session went into this, to our surprise.)


(Shortly after supper this evening, Tom Milligan, a former student of Jane’s brought us a copy of Saga Magazine for Dec. 71. It contained an article by our friend Otto Binder, entitled “UFO's Own Earth and All Mankind!” This article touched upon many ideas we are interested in, and quoted astrophysicist Fred Hoyle, among others, re the ownership of the race idea. We spend some time discussing it. We had no opinion particularly, beyond remembering that according to Seth the whole question of the race of man and its origins, and doubts concerning theories of evolution, was vastly more complicated than was generally believed. Seth’s ideas of time give us quite a different approach to these ideas also.)


(In the NY Times tonight I read an article, with pictures, of the Mars probe currently underway by our Mariner spacecraft. Dr. Carl Sagan of Cornell University was quoted in the article. Dr. Sagan was also quoted in Otto’s article, regarding the ancient Sumerian - Akkadian legends and UFO’s, too our surprise. The question that has always bothered me is brought up - why does our history only go back five or 6000 years ago, when Homo Sapiens appeared some 50 000 years ago as an established species?)


(In addition, I have always doubted the block and tackle idea used in constructing such massive, enormous wonders as Baalbek. With this goes my questions concerning the ability of sculptors to do the marvelously intricate carving adorning all of these buildings, on such an enormous scale. I have always wondered just how it was possible, with the few tools then available, according to our history, to do this work. It seems beyond the tools scope. I would delight in seeing it duplicated today, using identical stone, tools, etc., with time trials.)


(Thus, all of these points came together tonight and resulted in the session. In the beginning Jane’s pace was rather slow, her eyes closed often. The session was held in her study in apartment four.)


Seth: “Now good evening.”


Rob: “Good evening, Seth.””


Seth: “The message for tonight is: you are not owned.


“Now, your human stock did not all originate solely from your planet. I never told you that it did. In that respect your ancestry is indeed varied. Some of the information given in my own book, by inference, should have made that clean.”


(By coincidence - Seth’s book has just come back to us from Prentice Hall for us to go over the copy editor’s suggestions before it is set in galleys, which we will see in April. But we haven’t had time to reread the manuscript.)


Seth: “Evolution, as it is thought of, had many different aspects in those terms. There were three or four beginning points. Do you follow me?”


Rob: “Yes.”


Seth: “There were then visits from others in other planetary systems. In that regard this is quite natural. Your own relative isolation is far from the average. The legends, many of them, therefore, were of course chronicles of quite legitimate physical events, describing phenomena for example for which natives had no adequate vocabulary. They were forced to describe what they saw by making comparisons with objects and events already familiar to them.”


(Jane’s pace, as Seth, was now quite a bit faster.) “Some such visitors, in your terms, were more evolved than others. All, however, would appear as superhuman in contrast to those civilizations that encountered them. There were some deliberate experiments, that were in fact far more dangerous to the experimenters, always in which the experimenters tried, in one way or another, tired to advance man’s knowledge.


 (9:29) “It is not nearly as simple as that, however. There is not a one-line development. By the time that feasible inter-system space travel is practical, the psychic abilities are developed to a very high degree. One is necessary for the other. Therefore, it became much more feasible to approach earthmen during their dream state, when their natural fear reactions were somewhat minimized, and where the danger to the visitors was far less.”


(It was so hot in the room that I asked Seth to wait while I turned the heat off. I also opened a kitchen window. Jane sat quietly in trance.)


Seth: “Out of body encounters were used as a matter of course. The visitor could appear and disappear then without fear of pursuit. Civilizations were often warned in advance of natural disasters that were apparent to the visitors with their greater viewpoint.


“Such warnings were either given in the dream state of the earthmen, for the reasons given or often in some secluded place, for often the visitors would be attacked. During these eras, in your terms, the speakers often acted as go-betweens. Often warnings of disaster were not followed. Some warnings were misunderstood, then, as punishment by the gods of ‘moral misdoing.’


(9:36) “The whole moral code idea was originally tailored for the current scene as it was encountered, told in terms that the natives could understand.


“The pyramids, the huge boulders etched out (I think Seth refers here to Baalbek; I didn’t interrupt to ask.) All of this was done in one way or another through the use of, a knowledge of, both coordination points in space (described by Seth in his own book) and the use of sound. (Also described to some degree.) There were instruments that released sound, and directed it in the same way, say, that a laser beam does with light.


“Drawings of some of these exist in primitive Sumerian cave renditions, but the drawings are misinterpreted, the instrument is taken for another. No one knows how to use the instruments. There are a few in existence, in your terms.”


(The Sumerians were a pre-Semitic race inhabiting the lower Euphrates valley; their empire dated from about the 4th millennium BC. They were probably the Biblical Shinar. Their country was called Sumer, etc.)


Seth: “The Sumarians (spelled) left the memory of their existence in the Sumerian culture (spelled. This is the connection Jane and I hadn’t believed existed.) They initiated it, though they did not direct all of its activities, nor were they responsible for the distortions of their teachings that often resulted. There is a difference then between Sumarian and the culture in the books. Your Sumarian were behind the culture - they initiated that particular civilization.


“I will be clear. Your Sumarian showed earth people at that time how to communicate, how to initiate crafts, gave them all the fundamentals upon which a civilization then could be based. The Sumarians, your Sumarians however, were not of human stock at that time.


“Now. Your Sumarians have become human stock in those terms at other times. It is not a point of them trying to invade a native stock. They simply understood the nature of individual existences. Therefore, they are able to choose from various physical systems those in which they would like to have experience.


“They maintain their inner knowledge and integrity, and are born within any given system. They always use their native abilities and talents to help the system, working very strongly in psychic or creative endeavors.


“I do not necessarily mean that they are consciously aware of their affiliation. This is an individual matter. They are often inventors, always then involved with the initiation of new ideas or discoveries. All of this follows inner patterns that are specifically human in your terms. Humanity therefore has its own characteristics, and no ‘outside influence’ can go counter to these, but must work with them.


(9:50) “When it seems that great discoveries come, and then are lost through the ages, perhaps to be rediscovered, it simply means that man’s own nature was not in harmony with them, could not use them properly. Whenever aggressiveness became too misguided it automatically caused the loss of powers or discoveries that could be used to destroy the planet.


“This is a natural aspect, the self-protective principle that operates within earth life as you know it. On occasion discoveries were given before their time, and promptly lost, only to be rediscovered ages later.


“The problem comes when you try to categorize consciousness or being. The out of body state, in greater terms, is a far more natural state than in the body. You adopt and make a body. You do this now without even knowing that you do so, but a body can be made from the camouflage of any system, constructed easily when you know how to do it.


“Space suits are, therefore, and inadequate, clumsy memory of an inner ability to clothe the inner self with whatever camouflage is at hand, to merge with the elements of an environment in such a way that you become a living part of it.


“The Sumarians - Your Sumerians (spelled) did this when they initiated the culture spoken about in your books. Their sense of time is completely different, as however your own is innately. It is difficult to explain this, but keeping in touch with a civilization for several thousand years of your earth time, would entail perhaps the same amount of time and effort a man might take in his profession over a period of five to ten years, so the relativity of time is important in that context.


“You may take your break.”


(10:01 - Jane’s pace had been good, her trance good also. I had trouble in some instances deciding in the copy which spelling to use - Sumerian or Sumarian; in some instances my quick decisions were in error, I came to believe as I typed up this copy, so as can be seen I made changes. Jane read them over, and agrees that this copy is now as Seth meant it to be.)


(I told Jane at break that I needed a capsule definition of Sumari and she said that last night in ESP class Seth had commented that the Sumari was a “federation of consciousness.” We get the duplicated transcript of each ESP class the following week, so we do not have the record for last night’s ESP class session, for 1/11, yet.)


(During break I referred again to the photos of the massive ruins of Baalbek in one of the books Shirley Bickford lent us. I explained to Jane my feeling that the amazingly intricate stone carving, particularly the bas-relief work, seemed beyond the abilities of the hammer and chisel. Jane broke in to tell me that this carving was done by small instruments that used inaudible sound waves: these radiations softened the stone, she said, so the work could be performed. She didn’t know where this data came from. If from Seth it wasn’t obvious to her.)


(Resume at 10:20)


Seth: “Now - Are you ready for me?


Rob: “Yes.”


Seth: “Basically - in your terms now - there is no such thing as an isolated, independent earth stock, in that consciousness did not suddenly erupt from the physical behavior or characteristics of your planet, or in any other.


“As you know, consciousness comes first, and then forms the physical materializations of it. Those consciousnesses who picked physical materialization choose to operate under certain conditions that then appear as the natural characteristics of a species to you.


“They accept certain characteristics, and while experiencing existence within them must follow along the roads they’ve chosen. Hence earlier I spoke of the natural bent of humanity, of all those, then, who choose existence within you particular planetary existence.


“Consciousness is not local, and it never was.


“You have always been Sumari. This simply means that your consciousness has certain bents of its own, interests and abilities and specializations. The word Sumari characterizes a certain kind of consciousness simply for means of identification in your terms.


“I told you once that there are clumps of consciousness. This does not mean that consciousness is not individual and separate, but that it also has a great ability to congregate, to reach out in affiliation, to share knowledge and experience, and to combine itself in ever-changing patterns while still retaining its basic identity and integrity.


(10:29) “To have explained this to you when we began our sessions would not have been possible. (Pause.) Now give us a moment. (Long pause.)


“Space and time are constructions of ideas. They do not appear physically, as say a table or a chair, yet they seem to define both a table and a chair, in that you cannot easily conceive of a piece of furniture, for example, existing except in the medium of space and time.


“The ideas of space and time are constructed in different ways in various systems. In some they appear as natural phenomena, for example as various classifications of objects, in some as variations of sound or light. You find it exceedingly difficult to consider existence at all without space and time, yet basically consciousness is independent of both.


“The ideas of space and time emerge only when consciousness adopts camouflage, only when it becomes wedded, in other words, with a physical type existence. Time and space are both creations of consciousness, in other words, and vehicles of its expression.


“Matter is a classification. As explained in my book, various levels of concentration can be used as platforms leading you out of focus, into other time schemes. Time is like color. You are merely focusing upon one hue. (10:39)


“Your present civilization and the ‘old’ Sumerian (spelled) civilization, exist at once, then simultaneously, but to speak to you about these I must use a time sequence you understand. If it were understood that these civilizations exist at once, then you would not be so surprised that they ‘were’ able to build structures that you cannot build in your now.


“Your now and their now exists now.


“In the present physical area in which it seems to you that a physical civilization once existed, that civilization still exists. You cannot meet it though you stand at the same spot, because of the ideas of time that separate you. The civilization in flower, and the ruins, coexist. The living ancient Sumerians pass the modern tourists without seeing them, even as the tourists walk in the middle of the old Sumerian marked places and see only ruins.


“Much of this could be explained in mathematical equations that presently escape you. Your own consciousness is contemporary with the ancient Sumerians (spelled) as well as with your current selves in your terms.


(10:46) “Think of countries existing simultaneously now on your planet. There are differences in language and culture, and it takes a certain amount of earth time to travel through space to visit them. In the same way all times exist at once, with their peculiar customs, and in your terms within the same space that you know.


“You have learned how to make roads through space, but not through time on a conscious level. There are intersections n time and space, however, that you have not recognized. I am speaking in your terms, hopefully to make this simpler. (Pause.) Times exist then as surely as places. You think of time as moving toward something, and of space as relatively stable.


“It does not occur to you then that you can get to times, as you can get to places. (Pause at 10:53.) All of this is highly difficult to explain. I do not mean for example that time, each moment, is a finished and done thing to be visited. While time is not moving in a particular direction, in your terms, each moment explodes outwards, or expands outward in all directions.


“Space and time as you understand them ripple through each other. They do not behave as you think they do, however. Presently you understand your existence only as it intrudes into three dimensions. Its own activity is in many other dimensions however.


“The Sumari, therefore, appear in or intrude into the three dimensional system from other dimensions.


“Now you may take a break or end the session as you prefer.”


Rob: “We’ll take the break.”


(10:58. Jane’s trance had again been very good. Now she talked more about what she had said at last break, concerning the carving done on stone that had been softened by instruments employing sound. Only a very sophisticated instrument was used, she said, to soften the top layer of the stone so that it was “like frosting which could then be easily carved. The instrument might have done both the softening and the carving.”)


(But first of all,” she added as we continued to talk, “either that instrument or another one was used to isolate the top layer of the stone from the rest of it so that it wasn’t weakened.” We had been discussing the very intricate and extensive bas-relief carving pictured on the door frames and lintels of the ruins at Baalbek in this instance - not, say the in-the-round carving shown on columns, etc.)


(Ack-a-sond-a. This is my phonetic interpretation of a word Jane got regarding the instrument in question, whether from Seth or not she didn’t know, as at last break. The sound wasn’t audible to human ears. The instrument “sort of looked like - I can’t really do it - the shape I’m getting is of a very rough pistol shape...All you had to do was aim it. That was just for the small stuff.”)


(Resume at 11:15)


Seth: “Now. Matter was manipulated through sound. Some remnants of spaceships became temples. Some visitors were seen to die, and later seen again recovered, hence the Egyptians’ sureness that the individual survived death.


“Because of space travel a visitor might come as a young man, and return some 40 earth years later still appearing as a young man, leading to the idea of immortality and eternal youth of the gods.”


(Such effects would grow out of the operation of Einstein’s relativity postulates, etc.)


Seth: “The Olympic gods were perhaps the most amusing of man’s attempt to deify space travelers. Mixed in here strongly were the ideas of gods mating with earth women. (Pause.)


“In some respects the over enthusiastic use of the sound was responsible for the flood mentioned in the Bible, and other literature. It was for this reason that many attempts were made to warn against the impending disaster. The use of sound was important at various times in irrigating dry areas, quite literally by pulling water from a distance.


(11:22) “There were several characteristics that proved difficult, however. Literally, the sound traveled further often than was intended, causing consequences not planned upon. Great finesse was important. Sound was also used after irrigation to speed up the flowering of plants, and to facilitate transplantation to other areas. it was also utilized for medicinal purposes in operations, particularly in bone and brain operations.


“Verbal sounds were often stereotyped simply because the effect of sound was understood in its effects upon the body. Many ideas that are considered superstitious had a quite legitimate basis, therefore. Sound was used to locate one also, and to break someone down. It was also used to locate gas pockets.


“This is a difficult subject. For the movement of heavy tons of rock for example different techniques, using sound and precise mathematical calculations were necessary. Many civilizations grew and flourished in fertile areas simply because the people knew how to make them fertile and to keep them that way.


“Now you had better end the session. My heartiest regards to you both.”


Rob: “Thank you very much, Seth. It’s been extremely interesting. Good night.”


(11:32. Both of us were quite tired. There was much more data available, we knew, but we were to weary to get it.)




Rob’s Notes:




I read the 604th Session to ESP class on Tuesday, January 7, 1975. After I’d read some pages, George Rhodes held up a drawing he’d made of the ankh and asked Seth - who had come through - - if the sound instrument was the ankh, or at least shaped like it. Like a pistol if held sideways. The “barrel” would emit the sound ray and the mechanisms and controls would be in the short arms.


Seth told George he was quite right. The passage will be included in the class transcript for 1/7/75 that we’ll get next Tuesday, and I’ll try to remember to attach a copy of it to this session.




ankh (angk), n. (Egypt. ankh life, prosperity.) A T-shaped cross surmounted by a loop, used as a sacred emblem, symbolizing life; - called also crux ansata.


I have no scanner, but what follows is a drawing of a perfect, sideways T with a sort of loop after the top part of a T that is standing up. That is, draw a T, go to the middle where both lines meet, and draw a loop from that point upward to meet back at the starting, and then lie the T on its side. The arms of this instrument were the top part of the T, before the loop (where Christ’s arms were...sorry) and the barrel was the bottom part of the T.




605th Session January 17, 1972 9:24pm, Monday


(At 9:20 p.m. Jane said she “felt Seth around. I get a word or two in my head, so I know he’s here.” We had just finished a snack. Jane had read the last session while she ate. Her pace was quite slow to begin.)


Seth: “Good evening.”


Rob: “Good evening, Seth.”


Seth: “Now. There are bleedthroughs, however, in space and time as you think of them. Remember, all times are simultaneous.


“Ideas are not dependent upon preexisting ideas. It is not true to say that man cannot conceive of something that is not already presented to his experience in one way or another. Ideas are free of space and time. Only your determined focus upon your time conceptions closes you off from many ideas that otherwise are available.


“In your terms the bleedthrough can occur in both past and present, and idea from today bleeding into the past or the other way around. The ideas will be actualized or put into a practical structure according to your attitude toward them.


“Some of the most sophisticated art is from the past. Bleedthroughs result in its being picked up in your present. Theoretically all of the information of so -called lost civilizations is quite available to you, as yours is to them. A closed mind will perceive none of this.


“In terms of experience humanity is working out its problems and challenges in 20th century terms and in the old Sumerian (spelled) civilization. You simply choose various kinds of organizational structures and different root assumptions - all however within the general root assumptions used for physical existence.


(Pause at 9:35 one of many.) “The old Sumerians (spelled) are singing their chants now at the same time that Ruburt is trying to translate them now in your terms. I wish I could impress upon you this great transparency of time so that you could experience its dimensions. In one way of speaking you have “not yet” developed the proficiency with sound that would now allow for the building of structures such as those we described in the last session.


(Those at Baalbek; the Pyramids, etc.) “Yet those structures exist even in your now, bleedthrough to make you think and, in other terms, to make you remember. Many physical structures have existed in your terms in the same space now occupied by your apartment house. Because of your root assumptions, however, it is not possible for you to perceive these, nor those that will come ‘after.’ Yet those structures exist as validly as the apartment house.


“They share certain coordinates. Knowing those coordinates would, of course, be very important., but the other realities would still remain nonrealities to you unless you changed your primary focus. When you do that there is no need to know what the coordinates are. The inner self is quite aware of all of this. It picks and chooses the information and data that is important to you, and makes it available according to your desires.


(9:42) “If you are greatly interested for example in history, then the inner self brings you the information you need from all of its sources. Under certain conditions you maybe propelled through the coordinates and find yourself in the era in which you are interested.


“The conscious intent, however, directs the kind of material you receive. If you have no interest in such things, no phenomena will occur strong enough to impress you in the waking state. If is very possible then to be building a civilization that, in your terms, you are now studying, to be interpreting ancient records that you yourself may have written, to be digging up roads that you yourself built.


(9:47) “This applies to your own historical time as well as to others. At other layers, of course, your civilization is already in the past, as in others your civilization does not yet exist. The bleedthroughs, however, mean that each people according to their characteristics, interests and activities, attract certain ideas both from the future and the past, and there is constant interaction. Because of this even the past as you think of it, as I told you, is never done and completed, but constantly changed by your present and future.


(Long pause from 9:49 to 9:50) “Nabene, then, is changed by your present actions, even as you are by his seemingly past ones. Your friend, Sue, said that there is free action across the board in such cases, and that is an apt description.


“The pyramids exist as other than physical matter, but it is only as physical matter that you perceive them. There are several important issues connected with the pyramids that are not as yet understood. The symbols upon them often were meant to be sounded. The sound setting up reverberations. Some of these would automatically open up many doors, leading to as yet undiscovered secrets - but only for those who understood the use of sound.


“The Egyptians then were also helped, and told how to construct the pyramids.


“Now you may take your break.”


(9:52 Jane’s pace had been slow for the most part, and she said she knew it. Usually she isn’t aware of her pace, the passage of time, etc.)


(Nabene is the name for a personality of mine that presumably lived as a male in the first century AD in Jerusalem. We know little about that life: one evening with Sue Watkins, she also lived then, I managed to tune into that existence to some degree via images. Seth has referred to Nabene a few times, and my role as a record keeper and teacher. Sue was one of my pupils. I was quite a taskmaster, I’m told. Jane and I would like to hold a session to learn more about this life, including who else we know was involved then, etc.)


(10:10 Jane said “I’m just sitting here waiting. The connection doesn’t seem as good tonight.”)


(“I was wondering if you wanted to bother continuing,” I said.)


(I do. It just doesn’t seem as strong...” We continued to wait. At 10:15: “I had the feeling at break,” Jane said, “that Seth has gone away, rather than staying close like he usually does - as though he’d left to gather information or something. I’m perfectly willing to continue the session, though.”)


(Then: “I did get a line just now,” she said. “Something about how they prepared the air first, for the construction of the pyramid...Now I’m getting the feeling of an awful lot of people, chanting - thousands of them - this still has to do with the pyramids.”)


(It’s a real funny feeling, as though the sound could break through into the living room,” Jane said. I said I thought I understood what Seth was doing: in light of the material we’d been getting, he was giving Jane the experience of that ancient time and our present time, showing that both are simultaneous. This experience would tie in nicely with the material.)


(I feel that a whole mass of people would visualize a pyramid in their imagination,” Jane said, “then through their chanting, the use of certain vowels and pitches, they actually changed the air where that building was going to be. They made a boundary in the air,” she said making angular gestures, “a cohesiveness, for this imaginary structure. Then they had certain kinds of tuning forks, then some kind of instrument. The noise of the chant was like something that you’d use to turn on this instrument - when the chant got to a certain pitch it turned on this instrument, and it somehow intensified and focused sound to what we would call an incredible energy degree - broke it down and then focused it in certain directions.:)


(“You could move very heavy objects with it. The objects were levitated - raised up in the air, no matter how heavy. They only needed to be guided by people to some degree. Many men were used to guiding them but not to lift or carry them. The sound instrument had a fantastic cohesive effect that bound atoms and molecules together.”)


(10:25 “And beside that the instruments also set up some kind of extra charge that we don’t understand yet, around objects that were so constructed, like the pyramids,” Jane continued. She was speaking faster now than she had in the session. “Doors and passageways inside the pyramids will open through the correct sound messages and signals, and were designed only to open if those correct signals were given.”)


(This sounds really weird. There are also invisible pyramids - we just can’t see them.” I could tell that Jane didn’t know what to make of this data; she was even hesitant at telling me. “These pyramids were constructed in such a way that they reflect everything else, so that when you look at them you don’t see them as objects. Wait, I’m not getting this right...they’re perfect camouflages of wherever they are, but certain sound pitches would make them visible.”)


(“There are some invisible rooms like that inside the regular pyramids, too.”)


(Pause at 10:30. “These are structures engineered on our earth extremely cleverly. Sound patterns would physically materialize them, but if these patterns aren’t given then the structures are just out of the range of what we’d normally (call?) physical. They’re complete, see, if this pattern is given or spoken.”)


(Jane said, “It’s as though they’re frozen - this isn’t a good word - at a certain stage until these patterns are given.” (Pause.) “All objects have their own sound patterns that help form their structure as much as the atoms and molecules do...”)


(Break at 10:35. “I wanted to take a break, Jane said. “I never heard of anything like that. It sounded so crazy I didn’t even want to say it, about the invisible pyramids...The chanting was over here.” She gestured to her left as she sat in her rocker; we were holding the session in her study in apartment four again. Jane’s gestures thus indicated the large open center area of the room, as though she was reaching over a wall almost. “I got some of the chants, but I couldn’t quite carry it through. Seth didn’t tell me anything like this was going to happen.”)


(At 10:43 “I’m just waiting to see what happens next. This isn’t terribly strong, but I have the feeling of a barrier over there,” and again Jane gestured to her left. “that I can’t get over. But all this stuff comes from over there. Something about these instruments making atoms and molecules denser, somehow - doing different things with them...”)


(Then Seth returned at 10:45:) “Now. The information Ruburt gave is substantially correct.”


“You know that sound has an effect upon living things. It can help mend bone. It can also be used, however, to reinforce structures. We are in the preliminary stages with the Sumari language - hopefully leading to some understanding of the nature of sound, though (humorously) you may not yet be able to build a pyramid in your back yard.”


Rob: “I understand.”


Seth: “Now I would like you to close your eyes, or leave them open if you prefer. Let various inner sounds, memories of sounds, enter your consciousness, that may or may not be familiar to you. Try to think of the sounds of images, think specifically of pyramids and see what sounds come to you.”


(10:50 While Seth was talking I kept writing, of course, in order to get the material for future reference. Finally I sat quietly. Jane was already doing so, her eyes shut; I didn’t know whether Seth had left again or not. My own eyes closed and I let myself drift.)


(In a few moments I seemed to visualize a pyramid shape that was based on pictures I remembered of the actual structures in Egypt. This was very pleasant. I seemed to be above the building looking down at it. This image, on a slight angle, was probably more subjective than objective. Then I seemed to feel a deep ringing gong-type sound, one that was rather prolonged. It was repeated several times. After this I felt and heard a series of chants by an unseen group, seemingly out of my field of vision to my right.)


(The chanting was low and monotonous. It went up and down the scale but a few notes. I had the feeling that it would repeat itself almost effortlessly as long as I sat in this state and listened. I enjoyed the experience, and was somewhat surprised at the results.)


(I opened my eyes. Jane opened hers, and I could see that Seth was present. I described what I had experienced, not knowing if I had accomplished anything even remotely approaching what he had in mind. “I don’t know why,” I added, “but I associated the square base of the pyramid with this gong effect. It was as though I could see this shape especially well while listening to the gong sound, which was quite prolonged actually. It seemed to repeat itself. Like the chants, which were pretty monotonous, up and down a few notes on the scale. They weren’t pitched very high, either.”)


Seth: “That is a very good beginning.”


(I don’t know why I use the word gong,” I said. I couldn’t imitate it. I think there’s a funny association there also with old movies. I could have picked up the chanting idea from material Jane was getting earlier this evening.)


(10:56) Seth: “I want you to discover some of these things for yourself, which is why I used this particular format this evening. I will only tell you then that your feeling of the sound of a gong is quite legitimate.


“I would like both of you at odd moments to look at objects, then try to hear their sound. This will be handy training for some other things to come. This also applies incidentally to various organs of the body, and to the body itself. Then let the sounds evoke whatever naturally comes from them. There is a strange inter-relationship between sound and what you think of as time, but a binding one.


“Time can then ‘appear’ as a sound. Sound can be used to set apart certain elements from others, to isolate them from others, and on the other hand to bind elements also. In that regard think of sound as a line perhaps that you sketch with.


(11:01) “Sound’s properties are not understood. I want it specifically noted then that sound can be used as a binder or as a separator of elements. It can be used to open up pathways within dimensions, both microscopic and macroscopic.


“And with that I will close our session. Think also, however, of the sound in connection with your paintings, of sounds that will make the paintings themselves more vital and the material last longer. And with that I will leave you.”


Rob: “Thank you very much, Seth. It’s been extremely interesting. Good night.”


(11:04. Jane said that while I had been getting my effects, she had been somewhat separated from Seth after all. She saw groups of men “like pictures you’d see of Egyptians. I saw their dark skin - in color - against short robes. They were in groups chanting.”)


(She saw a structure like a pyramid shape. She had the feeling that "heavier sounds were at the bottom. These formed the base of the pyramid.” She tried several times to explain this to me. It was all important, she said, that the heavier sounds were at the base of the structures. Like the musical scale, she felt that the sounds used in building the pyramids “made steps in the air that you couldn’t see. Certain sounds went up - certain sounds bound things together - they all had purposes...”



Acoustical Levitation


Date: 10 Jun 1998 05:51:07 -0000

From: Rick Audette <rea1@gte.net>

To: Science & Spirituality List <science-l@spiritweb.org>

Reply-to: Rick Audette <rea1@gte.net>

Subject: [science-l] Acoustical Levitation Machinery



Here's something interesting about using sound waves to change the state of matter.




Excerpt from "Anti-gravity and the World Grid" edited by D.H.Childress, ch.8, Acoustic levitation of stones by Bruce Cathie, pp. 213-217


A New Zealand scientist recently gave me an intriguing extract from an article published in a German magazine, relating to a demonstration of levitation in Tibet. After obtaining a translation by a German journalist, in English, I was amazed at the information contained in the story, and was surprised that the article had slipped through the suppression net which tends to keep such knowledge from leaking out to the public. All the similar types of stories that I had read up until now were generally devoid of specific information necessary to prove the veracity of the account. In this case a full set of geometric measurements were taken, and I discovered, to my great delight, that when they were converted to their equivalent geodetic measures, relating to grid harmonics the values gave a direct association with those in the unified harmonic equations published in my earlier works. The following extracts are translations taken from the German article: 'We know from the priests  of the far east that they were able to lift heavy boulders up high mountains with the help of groups of various sounds...the knowledge of the various vibrations in the audio range demonstrates to a scientist of physics that a vibrating and condensed sound field can nullify the power of gravitation. Swedish engineer Olaf Alexanderson wrote about this phenomenon in the publication, Implosion No. 13.


The following report is based on observations which were made only 20 years ago in Tibet. I have this report from civil engineer and flight manager, Henry Kjelson, a friend of mine. He later on included this report in his book, The Lost Techniques. This is his report.


A Swedish doctor, Dr. Jarl, a friend of Kjelsons, studied at Oxford. During those times he became friends with a young Tibetan student. A couple of years later, it was 1939, Dr. Jarl made a journey to Egypt for the English Scientific Society. There he was seen by a messenger of his Tibetan friend, and urgently requested to come to Tibet to treat a high Lama.


After Dr. Jarl got the leave he followed the messenger and arrived after a long journey by plane and Yak caravans, at the monastery, where the old Lama and his friend who was now holding a high position were now living.


Dr. Jarl stayed there for some time, and because of his friendship with the Tibetans he learned a lot of things that other foreigners had no chance to hear about or observe.


One day his friend took him to a place in the neighbourhood of the monastery and showed him a sloping meadow which was surrounded in the north west by high cliffs. In one of the rock walls, at a height of about 250 metres was a big hole which looked like the entrance to a cave.


In front of this hole there was a platform on which the monks were building a rock wall. The only access to this platform was from the top of the cliff and the monks lowered themselves down with the help of ropes.


In the middle of the meadow, about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the centre. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimetres. A block of stone was manoeuvred into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab. The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and 6 trumpets.(Ragdons)


Eight drums had a cross-section of one metre, and a length of one and one half metres. Four drums were medium size with a cross-section of 0.7 metre and a length of one metre. The only small drum had a cross-section of 0.2 metres and a length of 0.3 metres. All the trumpets were the same size. They had a length of 3.12 metres and an opening of 0.3 metres. The big drums and all the trumpets were fixed on mounts which could be adjusted with staffs in the direction of the slab of stone. The big drums were made of 1mm thick sheet iron, and had a weight of 150kg. They were built in five sections. All the drums were open at one end, while the other end had a bottom of metal, on which the monks beat with big leather clubs. Behind each instrument was a row of monks.


When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.


Continuously they brought new blocks to the meadow, and the monks using this method, transported 5 to 6 blocks per hour on a parabolic flight track approximately 500 metres long and 250 metres high. From time to time a stone split, and the monks moved the split stones away. Quite an unbelievable task.


Dr. Jarl knew about the hurling of the stones. Tibetan experts like Linaver, Spalding and Huc had spoken about it, but they had never seen it. So Dr. Jarl was the first foreigner who had the opportunity to see this remarkable spectacle. Because he had the opinion in the beginning that he was the victim of mass-psychosis he made two films of the incident. The films showed exactly the same things that he had witnessed.


The English Society for which Dr. Jarl was working confiscated the two films and declared them classified. They will not be released until 1990. This action is rather hard to explain, or understand.: End of trans.'


The fact that the films were immediately classified is not very hard to understand once the given measurements are transposed into their geometric equivalents. It then becomes evident that the monks in Tibet are fully conversant with the laws governing the structure of matter, which the scientists in the modern day western world are now frantically exploring. It appears, from the calculations, that the prayers being chanted by the monks did not have any direct bearing on the fact that the stones were levitated from the ground. The reaction was not initiated by the religious fervour of the group, but by the superior scientific knowledge held by the high priests. The secret is in the geometric placement of the musical instruments in relation to the stones to be levitated, and the harmonic tuning of the drums and trumpets. The combined loud chanting of the priests using their voices at a certain pitch and rhythm most probably adds to the combined effect, but the subject matter of the chant, I believe, would be of no consequence.


The sound waves being generated by the combination were directed in such a way that an anti-gravitational effect was created at the centre of focus (position of the stones) and around the periphery, or the arc, of a third of a circle through which the stones moved.


If we analyse the diagram published with the original article, then compare it with the modified diagram, we become aware of the following coordinates, and the implications, when compared with my previously published works.


The distance between the stone block and the central pivot of the drum supports is shown as 63 metres. The large drums were said to be one and one half metres long, so the distance from the block to the rear face of each drum could be close to 63.75 metres considering that the pivot point would be near the centre of balance. My theoretical analysis, by calculator, indicates that the exact distance would be 63.7079 metres for the optimum harmonic reaction. By mathematical conversion we find that this value is equal to 206.2648062 geodetic feet, which is harmonically equal to the length of  the earths radius in seconds of arc (relative to the earths surface) 206264.8062.  This also leads us to the following associations:


(206.2648062 x 2) = 412.5296124

This number squared = 170180.68 which is the theoretical harmonic of mass at the earths surface.


The four rows of monks standing behind the instruments in a quarter circle added to the production of sound by their loud chanting and must be taken in to account in regards to the geometric pattern. If we assume that they were standing approximately two feet apart, we can add a calculated value of 8.08865 geodetic feet to the radius of the complete group. This gives a maximum radius of: 214.3534583 geodetic feet.


The circumference of a complete circle with this radius would be: 1346.822499 geodetic feet.


Which is a half harmonic of 2693.645 (unified field)


The distance from the stone block to a calculated point within the cliff face and the height of the ledge on the cliff face from ground level is given as 250 metres. If we can now imagine that the raised stone blocks pass through a quarter arc of a circle during their flight from ground level to the hole in the cliff face, then the pivot point of the radius would be coincident with this position.


The theoretical radius was found to be: 249.8767262 metres which very closely approximates the estimate. This converts to  809.016999 geodetic feet. The diameter of the full circle would therefore be: 1618.034 geodetic feet.


A circle with this diameter has a circumference of 5083.203728 units, which can be divided into three even lengths of 1694.4 It therefore appears that the levitated blocks, once resonated to a certain frequency, would tend to carry out a flight path that is coincident to one third of a circle. The spacial distance being equivalent to the mass harmonic at the center of a light field, 1694443.


The instruments used by the group, in theory, would also have been tuned to produce harmonic wave forms associated with the unified fields. The given measurements are in rounded off parts of a metre but in practice some slight variations from these measurements would be expected in order to create the appropriate resonating cavities within the instruments.


The geometric arrangement, and the number of instruments in the group would also be a most important factor.


If the given measurement for each type of drum is modified fractionally and converted to its geometric equivalent an interesting value for the cubic capacity is evident.


The large drums:


1.517201563 metres long, 1.000721361 metres wide = 58.94627524 geodetic inches long, 38.88 geodetic inches wide = 69984 cubic inches capacity = 40.5 cubic geodetic feet capacity.


Therefore the cubic capacity for eight drums = 324 cubic geodetic feet This harmonic value is built into the world grid and is equal to half the harmonic 648.


The medium size drums:


1.000721361 metres long, 0.695189635 metres wide = 38.88 geodetic inches long, 27.00948944 geodetic inches wide = 22276.59899 cubic geodetic inches capacity = 12.89155034 cubic geodetic feet capacity.


Therefore the cubic capacity for four drums: = 51.56620136 cubic geodetic feet


14.97414932 centimetres = 5.895334377 inches = 5.817764187 geodetic inches = 0.484813682 geodetic feet


As the dish-shape was focused upward towards the stone block to be levitated it would be expected that some type of reaction would take place which had an effect on the mass. The geometric shape of the cavity does seem to be engineered in such a way the projected frequency vortex causes a reciprocal reaction to the mass harmonic of each block.

The reciprocal of 0.484813682 = 2.062648055

Twice this value: = 4.12529611

The square of this value: = 17.018068 (the harmonic of mass at the earth's surface.17018068


I believe that there is not much doubt that the Tibetans had possession of the secrets relating to the geometric structure of matter, and the methods of manipulating the harmonic values, but if we can grasp the mathematical theory behind the incident, and extend the application, then an even more fascinating idea presents itself.


Note from Rick :


From the information given above, I would like to experiment with this process. I think it should be possible to recreate the effect at a much smaller scale. The downscaling, from what I've read of Bruce Cathie's books, would have to be done by powers of 10, in order to maintain the harmonic values. Given this, I think I would want to try using a 1cm : 1m scale. That way, I could put it in the closet when I was done playing with it. In preparation for such an experiment, I began making a scale drawing in Cad. While drawing, I thought it would be interesting to create an overlay showing the shape of the combined wave form which converges on the focal point. To do this, I first had to determine the wavelength that each of the instrument would produce. The resonant wavelength for a cylindrical cavity is equal to four times the length plus 1,6 times the diameter. Taking it one step more, I divided the speed of sound in air by the wavelength to get the frequency. Being more of a musician than engineer, I wanted to see what combination of notes they were playing. The results have been found for the three drum sizes, but I don't have a formula that can be used on the horns. The horn length falls between that of a French horn and a tuba. The base frequency of a tuba is around 40cps, so the ragdons should be a little higher. The frequency for each drum was compared with the American Standard Pitch, A=440, the International Pitch, A=435, and the Scientific or Just Scale, C=256, charts to assign note values.


The values are; Large  drum=43.24cps, F,


             Medium drum=64.797cps,C,


             Small drum=218.059cps,A


At this point, there are still three unknowns to find, 1) the pitch of the trumpets, 2) the pitch of the priests chanting and 3) the frequency of the rhythm of the drum beat and chanting. I shall continue my interest in this experiment, in my spare time. Meanwhile, I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has additional information about the above account, relative mathematical formulae, theories, applications, experimental data or information on related books and articles.