ORMUS and Sounds in the Head
by Barry Carter

Sounds can be associated with the movement of kundalini energy. These sounds are acknowledged in many religious traditions. One interpretation of the Book of Revelation implies that the seven "churches" are the seven chakras. The sound at the opening of these chakras was a trumpet sound. Hindu mystics call these sounds the "nada" and Chinese mystics call them the "hu" sound.

It is very likely that these sounds are triggered by the ORMUS elements. In 1994 David Hudson provided some of the ORMUS materials to a gentleman who wished to take them for spiritual purposes. This gentleman took them while on a forty day fast. Here is the portion of this story relating to these sounds; first in Hudson's description from his Dallas lecture then in the gentleman's own words:

(See: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/Presentations/Dallas1.htm )

"500 mg. a day for 30 days, was called the Egyptian rite of passage, and so we had to find out what does this do. After 5 or 6 days of taking this material, this fellow began to hear this very high frequency sound, and every day the sound gets louder, and louder, and louder, and louder, and louder and louder. By the time he finished his fast, he said it's like loudspeakers in my brain, literally roaring this sound. It's the same sound that many of the meditators have heard, that your told to listen for when you meditate, to find this sound, but when you think about it most people don't hear it anymore. Well this sound is roaring in this man's head, it's roaring day and night, it's roaring when he's talking on the phone, it's roaring when he's working. And I said, "Doesn't this disturb you? Isn't this an irritating sound? " and he said, "Not at all. It's just like nectar", because it doesn't come through the ears. He said, "It's inside the brain."

Now it's hard for me to understand. It's hard for probably most of you to understand. He says, "David, it's just nectar. It's something that you literally want to go within the sound and just let it exclude everything out of your life". Basically at the end of the 42 day fast, he went back, he took a body brush to get rid of the toxins in his body, and he went back eating normally. And he was eating meat, white meat and vegetables. Well he figured the sound would die down and go away. It doesn't. The sound is still growing and getting louder and louder. After 60 more days, the dreams begin, the revelations begin, and then the visions begin. And this is going to sound a little far fetched to some of you, but there are light beings that come to this man and teach him. They never open their mouth but they telepathically are communicating with him....

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Now here are some comments from the original ORMUS consumer himself:

(See: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/intrview/ftrintrv.htm )

b: What effect(s) can you attribute to your ingestion of this material?

u: It wasn't very long after I started, that the sound started occurring. *The sound outside of sound.* That really is key to what can happen. Most people will hear that and think their ears are ringing. If you're careful, you'll realize that it's not in your ears. As you proceed with this, you'll realize that it actually moves outside your head and just above the crown of your head. It's more than a sound, it becomes an emanation....it really does. And that's when you have something that you can work with. By far, the majority of people who've ever had to deal with this didn't have a clue. If they'd studied some Taoist alchemy...if they had studied anything and applied it to themselves rather than keeping everything outside themselves...they'd have known that the dialogue they build with that phenomena gives them the keys to the next steps. There really is a trade-off that starts to occur. That's what made my experience so uniquely different from everyone else's.

b: So you were prepared for it.

u: I knew what to do. But there are very, very few people who do. This takes place internally. It's an active process. You're not going to sit there and have this zip through you and all of the sudden these wonderful things are there. It can't be that way. That's not the way the circuit is set up in your system. Your chakras and realizations are not built that way. Nothing is built that way. And to expect something outside of that is absolute foolishness.

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A gentleman named Gary, who describes himself as a kundalini awakened American engineer, described the sound that accompanied kundalini awakening for him:

(See: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/Historical/kundalin.htm )

I judged the results by observing kundalini flow for change. This was easy to do by noticing any change in tinnitus level (the internal ringing that has persisted since awakening kundalini), and also by noting the perceived pressure in the head from kundalini flow.

There was from little, to no detectable change in kundalini activity on any level, during or following taking the Isis powder.

For comparison, ordinarily tinnitus increases noticeably after eating, even for small amounts of food, such as a slice of bread. The ringing intensity and pressure sensations track the digestive progress, and are highest when absorption is peaking; it is difficult *not* to notice changes in it, or to ignore it. Larger amounts of food typically increase ringing/flow only up to a certain point, apparently limited by the maximum normal rate of absorption. There are a number of variabilities.

Small brief changes occur from taking commercial vitamin supplements, but I haven't discovered whether this is partly due to the vitamins & minerals, or just caused by the small amount of starch filler, sugar coating, etc. I suspect the latter.

Based on these experiments, I have concluded that ingesting Isis material has no significant affect on kundalini activity, and larger doses are unlikely to improve things, due to its apparent inertness in this regard.


Subj: Tinnitus, an awakening side effect.

From: gary

Barry wrote:


>You describe the kundalini sound as originating inside your head.

>The gentleman Hudson talks about describes the sound as

>originating at a point above his head:


>He said, "Dave, the sound seems to originate about 8 inches above

>my head, it comes down into my brain, it's like a hat band around

>my head, and it just roars here in my head. I can feel the

>vibration all through my body".


>Do you have any thoughts about why there is a difference?


Dear Barry,

I remember the description you are quoting, and noticed this point of dissimilarity too. I'm glad you pointed it out.

I can't offer a conclusive answer or explanation for you. The best answer will come when those individuals present analyses of their own experiences.

However, for the present, I will suggest some ideas that come to mind, as possibilities. Discussion on these lines is useful; it is difficult to explain one aspect of kundalini without touching on others, and this helps to promote a wider understanding of the subject. I *do* know precisely what he means by "like a hat band" around his head; this is a tight, gripping sensation, due to energy congestion around the edge of the sahasrara, or crown chakra, and is very common. It is often strongest along the very top of the jaw muscles, above the ears. The vibrations mentioned are also common to nearly all kundalini awakenings.

The experiences involved in Awakening are highly varied. It is hard to overstate this. As you are exposed to more and more accounts of awakening experiences, you will find that there are often as many or more differences as there are similarities. The point of origin for the Nada is a fine example.

Please allow me to digress from your question for a moment, to point out some of the fundamental differences in experiences which lie beneath these variations. When a broader understanding is gained, there is less tendency to get tangled up in the bewildering array of symptoms and effects, and making sense of things becomes easier.

In my observations, I have noticed that a significant number of awakenings may be roughly classed into two groups. The distinguishing factor between the two groups is in the method used to effect the awakening, which seems to have a modest statistical influence on the progress and development of events and experiences throughout the awakening process. I have not actually been compiling statistics on these, but there does seem to be a slight recognizable trend emerging. On the other hand however, I am not aware of any Masters who have made this specific generalization, and that may indicate that doing so is not particularly useful. But I shall use it here for illustration.

In one group, spontaneous awakenings and shaktipat awakenings seem to share or outline a trend toward similarity in the character, tone, and sequence of awakening experiences. [Shaktipat, refers to an impulse of energy, transferred to an individual by someone with kundalini already actively functioning; if the recipient is sufficiently close to the point of a natural or spontaneous awakening, shaktipat can then serve to instigate a self-sustaining awakening. Otherwise the effects of shaktipat fade away, as imparted energy dissipates.]

The other group includes awakenings effected through means such as directed meditation, pranayama, and other yogic practices. Awakening kundalini by these methods is comparatively rare, in relation to other types of awakening, particularly in the West.

Classifying awakenings like this can only be done in very general terms; there are lots of exceptions where this scheme does not hold. The experiences Dave has related of a few individuals taking monatomics appear to fall in with the first group; my awakening method, pranayama, is in the latter group.

In general, satisfying demands of the karmic burden seems to be delayed to later stages of the awakening, for the first group. In some cases I am aware of, very little karma had to be dealt with until after the first stage of enlightenment had been achieved, by which I mean establishing a conscious link with the higher self. Because the individual then acquires an entirely different point of view, a detached-observer perspective, as well as conscious access to the higher self, the individual is better able to weather the negative aspects of karma dissipation.

Awakenings in the second group may be generally noted to more typically involve settling up the balance sheets of karma in the early stages of the experience. There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. The first group is without doubt the most suited for any large scale movement towards awakening, such as is now taking place with monatomics. If there is any legitimacy to the classification system I have described, the spiritual impetus behind the monatomic movement is perhaps its strongest and best argument in evidence.

Returning to the issue of the supra-cranial vs. intra-cranial origins of Nada, it appears that the individual Dave is describing may be in the first "group", based on his experience descriptions. The nature of the Nada he is experiencing, may be a characteristic of this "class" of awakenings.

One form of the Nada which is frequently described by individuals undergoing an awakening is a humming sound, which can be approximated by imagining the sound heard by listening to a beehive; the sound made by a large number of bees using their wings to circulate air through the hive. It is sometimes also compared to the hum of big power transformer, but this is not as close. It is a pleasant, warm, comfortable-feeling sound. This Nada is more often associated with the first "group" of awakenings. We might speculate that this is representative of what Dave's friend hears.

I experienced such humming, only as an occasional sound during awakening. Others sounds included beautiful mystical sounds like tinkling glass wind chimes; short, immensely loud discordant blasts, like the powerful, loud BUZZZ you get when a microphone jack is only part-way plugged into a PA system; and on a few occasions, something resembling the sound of monks chanting, and lonely sounds of wind wailing over a desolate landscape. One of the most common ones was clicking, which sounded exactly like the sound of crickets clicking. There were others that are more difficult to characterize. All these sounds tended to be brief, particularly the more pleasant ones. It is not in keeping with the intent of paying off ones karmic debt in a direct fashion to expect to have much pleasantness bestowed upon one.

On those occasions when I experienced humming, a lot of other things were going on, and I did not make any careful observations on how the sound was being produced, where it was coming from, and so on. During those, and similar auditory experience events, I was focused on other things, and not paying particular attention on determining the apparent location of the sounds. I do not have a very clear recollection today, except that some of the sounds were "outside" of my head, or externalized, though still in immediate vicinity. Since I am still in an elementary stage of progress, perhaps I will be able to refine my observations further at a later time.


Subj: Tinnitus, an awakening side effect.

From: gary

Ed wrote:


>The following is from page 702, "Alternative Medicine: The Definitive Guide"

>compiled by The Burton Goldberg Group published by Future Medicine


>Inc., Puyallup, Washington, 1994:


>"Tinnitus is characterized by a continuous ringing or hissing in the ear,

>sometimes accompanied by pain. Causes can include excess ear wax, a blocked

>or impaired Eustachian tube, and dysfunction of the auditory nerve. Dr.

>Kotsanis notes that the onset of tinnitus may also be linked to excessive

>drug use, aspirin, sustained exposure to loud noise, electrical stimulation,

>smoking, trauma, Meniere's disease, and temporomandibular joint syndrome

>(TMJ). Tinnitus in the elderly is often due to decreased circulation in and

>around the ear.




Dear Ed,

Thank you; I appreciate the medical reference material on tinnitus. However, the tinnitus I am experiencing is not physiological in origin, in the ordinary sense, and hence not treatable.

Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) was one of the earliest and most persistent side effects of my awakening of kundalini. It began within a few days after commencing intense pranayama, and has continued uninterrupted to the present time.

At one point I used a precision synthetic frequency generator to produce a comparison tone, to measure the frequency it was ringing at. As I recall it was about 12.5 kHz, which was well below my ear's frequency cutoff for external sounds. It was easy to match with the precision oscillator to within a few Hertz. I don't know if the frequency is the same for all people that hear it following an awakening. It sounds quite like the frequency-matched oscillator tone, so I presume it is a pure sine wave, with little or no harmonic content.

For comparison purposes, at the very beginning it was easily louder than the sound of my electric shaver when shaving next to my ears, quite a high dB level. However, since it is an internal sound, it does not affect my external hearing. It is (obvious to me) caused by, or a result of, kundalini's flow into the head, and seems to me to originate as an excited-cavity oscillation as it enters the brahmarandra, similar to an acoustic whistle or klystron cavity. Its intensity (along with pressure sensations in the head) varies, depending on kundalini flow activity at any particular moment.

In my case, kundalini typically prefers to flow up the sushumna, or spinal cord, until it reaches a level slightly below the point where the heart chakra stem connects. It then branches to the left, passing into the saraswati nadi, whence it continues up into the head, passing closely behind my left ear. The saraswati normally carries thought currents, and because I am constantly involved in mental work, this particular path was already quite developed at the time of the awakening, and has been preferentially adopted by kundalini.

After a months of living with this ringing, I found myself longing for silence again. The sound (Nada) is always there, and the only respite within my experience to date is when the physical and nonphysical bodies separate, such as in sleep. This never ending ringing went from being something I enjoyed at first, to become an irritation and source of mental stress. But as the years have gone by, it seldom bothers me much anymore; you just get used to it and become resigned to the fact that it will always be there. It then becomes more peripheral to your everyday awareness, so you usually don't notice it.

Kundalini awakenings, in their early stages, often involve a wide variety of unusual sounds, and this was so in my case. However, as the awakening progressed these have cease for the most part, excepting only for the endless song of the Nada...


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I have had a similar sound in my head for most of my life. When I first noticed it, it varied and fluctuated much like Gary said. It has generally been very faint. When I started eating the ORMUS elements about two and a half years ago this sound became much louder. It's loudness seems to be in direct proportion to the potency of the ORMUS materials that I am ingesting. I have also compared the frequency of this sound to a high quality digital frequency generator and I have found that, for me, the frequency is closer to 10,000 hz. The sound is generally between my ears or slightly louder in my right ear.

Other folks who have ingested the ORMUS materials report similar results. One of these folks wrote:

After ingesting 50 ml of material...I am starting to hear the hu sound.

At least I think I am!

It is a gentle hum of a single pitch, but slightly wavy. By matching its

frequency with a tone from an audio signal generator, I have determined

that the hu sound I am hearing is 220 Hz to 222 Hz, or A to B-flat as a

musical note. The tone quality is nearly that of a pure sine wave.

There's some slight amplitude or phase modulation at an average, though

random, rate of about 2 Hz. In other words, the tone is not completely

steady in loudness; it "swirls" like a wet finger rubbed around the rim of

a crystal goblet.

As for localization, the sound does not seem to originate from my ears or

inside my head. It is unlocalized, but seems to come from outside the

head. Its volume and localization are not affected by my orientation or

location. The usual high-frequency tinnitus I have heard all my life is

roughly 6 or 10 dB louder than the hu sound, and is localized in my ears.

I hear the sound best when I wear ear plugs and sit in a quiet room. The

hu sound is easily masked by other sounds, so silence helps me to hear it.

I have made sure that no appliance motors are running in my home, yet I

still hear the hu sound. Hum frequencies (including harmonics) from AC

power wiring would be at 60, 120, 240 Hz etc. They do not match the 220 Hz

pitch of the hu sound.

It is pleasant and easy to ignore. But I'll just try listening to it and

see what happens...

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Another of these folks wrote:

"About the Inner Sounds connected to the consumation of ORMEs: the true Sound

has to come either from the right side or from all sides. There are ten

basic Sounds of the spiritual nature, they initially usually come together

and the attention should be put on the sound of bells. It has to be

accompanied with bliss and light comes simultaneously. The sound of Aum is

essentially different from Hu. They come from different levels in the Inner

Worlds. Hu is accepted by eclectic spiritual school of Eckankar, but is

described in Moslem and Sikh teachings. Some claim it is the oldest known

name of God and this claim could be true. What is interesting is that

sometimes this sounds are associated with substances, like "white stone"

etc. ! In India, the idea of reaching enlightenment by consuming some

substances is widely accepted and is called Aushadhi. It is mentioned in

Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. Many yogis in India confirmed that to me, even gave

some hints about the nature of these substances. It is quite possible that

some of them contain a large amount of ORMEs, like the exudate from some

Nepalese rocks - shilajit."


"I meditate 3 hours a day and am

practitioner of Surat Shabd Yoga, The Yoga of Inner Sound. In my last letter

I described everything necessary to know about these sounds, but wanna add

that Hu is in a way superior sound to Aum, because it is coming from higher

realms of the Inner Worlds. Frequencies can play some role, although the

experience of the sound is so intense in the sense of bliss that I could

hardly imagine anyone be able to make any measurements during these moments.

Here, I am warning you very seriously: ignore all sounds coming from left

side, they are harmful and misleading."

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Here is another comment from someone else on this subject:

Ringing in the ears is not a medical condition for the vast majority of people.

Ancient yogic systems use is as a method of meditation referred to as anahata nadam. By listening the this Music of the Spheres, the human vibration is heightened and propelled toward Cosmic Consciousness and union with the Divine.

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And yet another quote:

I happened to pick up this article in a health food store yesterday and, in light of a type of tinnitus being one of the symptoms reported by "ascending WG users", I thought I would share a part of it with you. It is an excerpt from an article written by Michael Schedler, M.D.:

"Tinnitus is derived from the Latin word, *tinnera*, for ringing. It's an ancient condition, often linked to witch craft.

Historically, the first mention of tinnitus in the medical literature comes from ancient Egypt. In an ancient Egyptian prescription for practicing the art of divining, known as the Demotic Magical Papyri, experts said that the way to find out whether individual virgin boys, who were preferred as mediums, had the gift of divination was to determine whether they had ringing in their ears. The elders would put oils on the boys' heads and surround them with bricks while performing a magical ritual. If ringing occurred in both of their ears, that was excellent. If ringing occurred only in the right ear, that was also welcome. Ringing in the left ear was not good. . . . "

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Here are a few comments on this subject from chapter 6 of "The Invisible Landscape : Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching", by Terence McKenna:


Ingestion of Stopharia cubensis, on a number of separate occasions, showed it to be of low toxicity and very nearly ideal for easy manifestation of the interior cerebral tone. We speculated that the tone is directly caused by the metabolism of the tryptamines within the cerebral matrix and might be the electron spin resonance of the metabolizing tryptamine molecules within the nervous system, somehow amplified to audible levels.


What is more startling is that the sound, which gains in energy the longer it is sustained, can actually become visible - as if the vibrational wave patterns were shifting into the visible spectrum or inducing a vibrational excitation of the air in such a way as to affect light diffraction.


Working from the hypothesis that this visible phenomenon might somehow proceed from the interior harmonic tones made audible through the ingestion of tryptamines, and further speculating that these tones might be caused by the electron spin resonance of the metabolizing tryptamines within the nervous system, our task became one of attempting to determine how vocally imitating molecular ESR [electron spin resonance] could produce a visible standing wave and, further, of attempting to describe just what this wave might be in physical terms.


The temporal process of metabolism leads in the human brain to a special kind of phenomenon, which is thought, and the nature and texture of this thought is affected and altered in relation to what specific metabolic processes are occurring within the brain.


It is not longer tenable to regard these processes of consciousness merely as an epiphenomenal reflection of the metabolic processes occurring simultaneously within the brain. It has been found that this process is a two-way exchange: Metabolism gives rise to special kinds of potentiated energy states within an organism, but these energy states reflect and, in some degree, determine what kinds of metabolic processes will occur.


Clearly, thought does have causal effect; reality, as we perceive it, is largely shaped by the artifacts, both material and symbolic, of thought.

Therefore, that thought can have no direct influence on the physical texture of reality is perhaps an unjustifiable assumption, for such an assumption implies that one has prior knowledge as to the boundary conditions of the interface of mind and the world. The question must remain an open one.

I will end this note with another quote from David Hudson's Dallas lecture:

"He said, "Dave, the sound seems to originate about 8 inches above my head, it comes down into my brain, it's like a hat band around my head, and it just roars here in my head. I can feel the vibration all through my body". But after 7 months these orgasms started and they just got more frequent and more frequent, and it's not something he controls. It's something that just comes on. Well, he only sleeps about an hour and a half to two hours now, he doesn't need 7-8 hours like most of us, and so he decided one morning about 4 o'clock in the morning, he's gonna go outside and just let this orgasm go. See what happens. He said it began down the pelvis, and it literally, he just let it move, and he said he could feel it, it came up over his stomach, up over his chest, up over his head, and he said, "My whole body was involved in this orgasm". And he said, "I felt hot. I felt like if someone came up and touched me they would burn their hand. The all of a sudden, out of the top of my head, goes this column of energy". He feels it just going right out the top of his head.

Ah, I was, about three weeks ago, I was handed a book, called "Secrets of the Golden Flower" by Richard Wilhelm with an introduction by Carl Jung. Richard Wilhelm did the eastern translations for Jung. This book was written in 1931, and it's been translated and been reproduced, and published several times since then, I guess it's now in paperback because some people are getting paperback copies now. Anyway, it verbatim describes this sound. And it says in the book it seems to all be about this sound, the "hu". Well we are the hu-man. The man who can hear the sound. Okay? This is about the "hu", the sound. And that it says in there that you get this energy in your pelvis, and that it can be developed where it literally will take your whole body up over your head and everything. And when it finally is at a state of perfection that it will feel like there is a column of light coming right out the top of your head."